Source: Dems Drop Gov’t-run Health Care Plan
After days of secret talks, Senate Democrats tentatively agreed Tuesday night to drop a full-blown government-run insurance option from sweeping health care legislation. (Dec. 9)
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December 11th, 2009 at 9:38 am
They have changed it to options that no on can afford.
December 11th, 2009 at 9:41 am
I meant not even near the 7600 that those under 65 would have to pay.
December 11th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Only one person per household–not families.
December 11th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
My cult? I have a cult? Wow. Independents are a cult.
Fact is, Obama is continuing almost every policy that Dems said was bad about Bush. The war, the patriot act, the ignorance.
December 11th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Thank you for quoting Glenn Beck and Michael Savage. Setting up a Universal health care system doesn’t mean we’re going to a communist system of government. The argument has become very simplistic and transparent.
Perhaps we should fully privatize the nations defense, police and transportation infrastructure?
‘For profit’ isn’t always the best option.
December 11th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
The right-wing has only recently been convinced that the thought of choice/competition with health coverage is relevant. Thanks to them, we can look forward to more bankruptcies due to medical expenses in the future. This really sucks because they are also my family, friends, neighbors and coworkers.
December 11th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
We can have both. Isn’t this supposed to be a representative democracy? We can still have the research. We just need to reign in the costs of care. Research doesn’t have to be neglected. We just have to make sure that the money is going were we want it to.
Perhaps this could become a legit discussion. Could we get rid of the right/left talking points and actually solve the real issues?
December 11th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
actually that was a quote from jason fulton.lol.socialised medicine socialised anything doesnt work.people are pulling their own teethe in Britain.waiting 6months for a operation.
December 11th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
their govt runs healthcare.
December 11th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
tell me this.Why should we have to pay more taxes because the wellfare people dont want to get off their ass and go to work?welcome to the real world.get up go to work and get your own healthcare.
December 11th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Information.
Britain has had universal coverage since WWII.
December 11th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
That is the same crap I’ve heard on the right-wing talk shows for almost a year now. So you worded it a bit differently.
We aren’t talking about welfare, which for the record, needs revision. Actual welfare is something we give way too freely. Especially here in WI. That results in quite a few people coming up from Chicago and Rockford, IL. We’re talking about financial security in health care alone. This issue has become a real issue since I started paying my own way after HS.
December 11th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
They wouldn’t be. The health care companies do it now though. It will become prevalent in the near future. They already tell you that you should join a gym, quite smoking and don’t ride a motorcycle. They dictate your weight and your recreational activities. They dictate which doctors/hospitals you can use. The premiums are their instructions.
December 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
i hardly watch the talk shows im going from what friends have told me that live in europe.theirs alot of things wrong with the system.welfare and healthcare.changing it isnt fixing it thats what this is all about.We need to fix it.not nationalise it.form a system based on Texas system.if you dont have ins.fill out the paper work job info.and they go based on your income.i emailed that proposal 2 the WH.and was ignored.Obamas like a kid not his way he thros a fit
December 11th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
If they base your insurance premium on your income, isn’t it being covered then by someone making more money?
We, then there’s debate from Europe also. I have family in Europe. They are fine with the system. They lived here years ago. The costs aren’t rising as fast for them as for us. Either way, someone is wasting our money. Get it away from our employers though. That’s not helping.
December 11th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
actually its called Spahn Care in Texas.the hospital covers whats left over.the govt has nothing to do with it.we have sooner care in okla.which is based off of medicare.and its killing our budget.the hosp.have a system here to help pay the bill if we cant.the doctors bills go up thats one reason our ins,goes up.the docs have been overcharging for years.thats 1 prob.employers shouldnt have to pay for our health i agree with ya on that
December 11th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
The doctors want the higher paying specialist titles. We desperately need general practitioners though. One reason for that is the pay. Well, take care of the schooling costs for someone serving 5-8 (?) years as a GP. As far as law suits go, that has to be dealt with. But, it’s not as bad as what we may have thought. The doctors are getting gouged on that one, hence us. Medication? Not enough space!
The quality of our health care system is virtually irrelevant when we cannot afford it.
December 11th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
I didn’t go bankrupt but did pay $119,000 for my doctor’s bill, $85,000 to my lawyer, and I got $15,000 for any future medical expenses in my auto-pedestrian accident settlement. I was just starting a new company and didn’t have any insurance … lost help from the State of Florida when I hired an attorney … now, I have a lot of pre-existing conditions! — Also, agree about taking insurance decisions from employers because their pick based on costs only not employee benefit.
December 12th, 2009 at 12:46 am
The 50 million without coverage are already working. Besides your Taco Bell paycheck won’t be taxed. People making $250K a year and up will pay. You’ve never read the reform all on your own, have you? Admit it. You argue without having read it. Typical
December 12th, 2009 at 12:48 am
The Cult of GOP. Now I have proof Obama is not W Jr. All you idiots would support Obama if he were like Bush.
December 12th, 2009 at 1:02 am
But I’m not a part of the GOP. I never have been. I did not support most of Bush’s policies and I don’t support most of Obama’s policies. Some are fine, most are not.
December 12th, 2009 at 1:04 am
You are either part of the fix or pat of the problem. You ain’t part of the fix.
December 12th, 2009 at 4:06 am
The government will not pay all. It’s 840. for a family of four for Blue Cross.with income of 50,000. Below 565 pay 7600 for medicare.
December 12th, 2009 at 4:11 am
It will be paid for by the rich, anything else you say is a lie to try to stop us from getting good health care.
December 12th, 2009 at 4:13 am
Google the New York Times article from yesterday. It explains the current bill very well.